Talk:Devoti ac sacri per totum annum hymni (Jan Le Febure)

Numbering vs. pagination

There is a problem with sorting hyphenated numbers in the seq column of Template:MultiPubList. This publication is in choirbook format and numbered by opening (rather than pagination or foliation) but I wonder if using the pg= parameter of the workpage Template:Pub would sort better than n=. Alternately, we could add numbering by title: 1. Conditor alme siderum 2. Christe Redemptor omnium, ex Patre 3. Salvete flores martyrum … Richard Mix (talk) 00:18, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

In any column of the MultiPubList table, sorting is "always" alphabetical, never numeric, according to the manual. The only way to get a numeric column to sort numerically is when it is the first column and all the numbers are simple integers (sometimes decimals work). I don't see the point of sorting the table by seq anyway, because the table above gives that sort: better to sort the MultiPubList table by work title, then a user can find a piece either way.

I looked at the scan cited, and I admit I don't understand what you are saying about hymns. (Also, the manual list doesn't seem to bear any resemblance to the scan?) Perhaps for the manual list, something like this would be better:

H	Hymn Title	S	Stanza	Page	Comment
1	Conditor alme siderum	2	[[<stanza2 incipit>]]
		4	[[<stanza4 incipit>]]
		6	[[<stanza6 incipit>]]
…	…	…	…	…	…

Or this could be done without a table by

• H1. Conditor alme siderum
  • S2. st. 2 incipit, p. n
  • S4. st. 4 incipit, p. n
  • S6. st. 6 incipit, p. n
• H2. …

And then no= on the work page would be 1.2, 1.4, 1.6, etc. But someone besides me is going to have to do this, because I don't understand it. — Barry Johnston (talk) 15:34, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

In the absence of a MultiPubList feast parameter the publication sequence is especially useful in publications like this that order things by the church calendar. There seems a strong case here for a hand-maintained list.

You say "(Also, the manual list doesn't seem to bear any resemblance to the scan?)". In the BSB scan the lefthand page of the first opening ("1") is headed "Domenica primus Adventus. & per totem" ('First Sunday in Advent, and the rest [of the season]') and the right ("other page 1"), with alto and bass parts, "Adventum ad Vesperas: Conditor, &c" (Vespers in Advent: [the hymn] Conditor alme). There's more background to the confusing state of this publication page at Talk:Conditor alme siderum (Jan Le Febure) Richard Mix (talk) 01:09, 21 August 2020 (UTC)