Talk:Requiem (Joseph G. Stephens)

Merge discussion

The situation as of 28 December 2010

There are five pages with four different CPDL numbers devoted to a single (albeit unusual) 3 movment Requiem (CPDL numbers, and editorial notes added):

1. Requiem (Joseph G. Stephens) CPDL #3788, lists all 3 movements
2. Requiem (3 movements) (Joseph G. Stephens) CPDL #3786, lists no movements (except in title)
3. Requiem aeternam (Joseph G. Stephens) CPDL #3787, movement 1 of 'Requiem'
4. Requiem: You having walked this earth (Joseph G. Stephens) CPDL #3788, movement 2 of 'Requiem'
5. The jewel in the lotus (Joseph G. Stephens) CPDL #3789, movement 3 of 'Requiem'

The three movements of this Requiem are represented (more or less) by the titles of #3-5, above, which (coincidentally) bear the consecutive CPDL numbers 3787–3789. It would appear that, at least at one time, an attempt was made to give a separate CPDL number (3786) to the entire three movment work. On the composer page the overall work is called Requiem (3 movements) – this and the three movements listed there all the link to the first listed page above: Requiem (Joseph G. Stephens).

Chuck_talk Giffen_♫ 02:26, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Reply by: Chucktalk Giffen♫ 03:04, 29 December 2010 (UTC)  Help  I see only two real alternatives (and I strongly favor the first): Merge everything onto the single page Requiem (Joseph G. Stephens), keeping one CPDL number and either abandoning the other three or possibly keeping separate edition numbers for the individual movements (but not for the "collected" work). This would reflect best the way the work is available externally on the composer's website. Keep pages named for the three individual movements and link them from a fourth "larger work" page, presumably Requiem (Joseph G. Stephens), but probably don't issue (keep) a separate collective work CPDL number for this page. I'm generally against having separate pages for movements of larger works, unless such works are very large and the movements very long, with several editions to complicate matters. And if separate movements are to have their own editions by a single contributor, then the combined work does not need nor should have a separate "collective" edition number. I just don't see the reasoning behind putting up separate pages for editions of movements a "song-cycle" or "mass" or "requiem" or "cantata" each with its own edition number and then also taking out an edition number for the collection when there is no substantive separate collective edition.

Thank you, Chuck, for having seen the problem. Yes, only one work page (no work edition number if there is no work score) with the three movements. But keeping inside three edition numbers, with the score information for each movement. Claude 08:09, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Done: One work page with 3 movements editions. #3786 is freed, #3788 is not duplicated anymore. Four other pages are just redirections to the main one. Ouf. Claude 02:52, 24 June 2011 (CDT)