User talk:Fysh
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Welcome to CPDL! We hope you will contribute much and well. You will probably want to read the help pages. Again, welcome and have fun! Claude (talk) 12:59, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
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Hi Andrew, I'm really delighted at the work you've undertaken with Manchicourt!
CPDL editors have resorted to (Nth setting) before, both with a Roman numeral Gaude visceribus II (Anonymous) and occasionally in English In manus tuas (1st setting) (John Sheppard). These are unambiguous because they were copied successively in a unique source (though it's a little confusing there's a Gaude visceribus (Anonymous) but no Gaude visceribus I (Anonymous)). I once preferred Parce mihi Domine (1582) (Orlando di Lasso) & Parce mihi (1565) (Orlando di Lasso), his parents having died at the same time and there being no firm chronology for order of composition; I did toy with (imitative) vs. (homophonic) though, thinking it would be easier for others to guess based on a musical description.
All this is a roundabout way of suggesting that it might just be simpler to move Pater peccavi (2nd setting) (Pierre de Manchicourt) to Pater peccavi a 4 (Pierre de Manchicourt), with Pater peccavi a 5 (Pierre de Manchicourt) the only other setting. ;-) Richard Mix (talk) 04:10, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Richard, thank you for your message! I had thought for a while about how to reference two different settings of the same text, and had a look around at what others had done with similar circumstances. I landed on this format for a couple of reasons: firstly, using the year of first publication would be unhelpful in this instance, since they were both first published in 1546; secondly, while using the voicing as a differentiator (as you suggest) would work here, it doesn’t work for Manchicourt’s other duplicate setting of the same text (Congratulamini) both of which are for 5vv. So I chose this method for consistency across his works. Not ideal, I know … but I hope my reasoning makes sense (as well as showing that there was reasoning!). Cheers, Andrew Fysh (talk) (talk) 04:22, 5 October 2019 (UTC)