User talk:Noteperfect

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The CPDL is for free public domain choral music. As such, posting commercial links is not appropriate. For more information, please see the article What is CPDL?. Thanks! -- Kkroon


I appreciate and respect what you are saying, however the article that you cite does not specifically address what you say. For consideration, what would be an acceptable way to provide such links? - (which I felt in my opinion were only placed in places that were appropriate to the music displayed on the page and in no other place - and being of possible interest to the viewer of the page in connection with the music). ie: a contribution (open to suggestions), Bearing in mind that the site is hobbyist (for my part) and is not on a commercial scale it certainly has never provided a viable income and is more a labour of love. NP


In the Admin forum on the CPDL Bulletin Board, it was suggested that an appropriate place for a link too the Note Perfect site would be on the User:Noteperfect (or User:Rod Mather) page. ChuckGiffen 07:38, 26 July 2006 (PDT)

rodeby.noteperfect.net transitioning to CantateDomino.org?

  • Posted by: Vaarky 02:52, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
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rodeby.noteperfect.net appears to be transitioning its scores to to http://www.cantatedomino.org/cd/index.shtml?Start.txt. Is the contact info still valid? I didn't receive a response when I e-mailed that site some months ago about missing scores.

Also, should we define a {{LnkWeb|Whatever}} location for these 34 scores that are moving? Is 34 too few? Does LnkWeb get defined by an admin at the server level or is there a place to go where any wiki editor can do this?

Reply by: Chucktalk Giffen 12:03, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

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Template:LnkWeb uses Template:Website which is easily updated by an admin. For a new listing, all that is required is to add a new optional parameter there, something like:

|case: Mather=http://www.cantatedomino.org/cd/index.shtml?Start.txt

on a separate line. LnkWeb is a simply a "wrapper" for displaying the link stored in Website with a net icon ( Network.png ). For some sites changes where the directory structure is preserved, Template:Website would be used directly as the first part of the link to scores.

In any case, 34 is more than enough to use this method.

Reply by: Vaarky 02:18, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

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Thanks! I've defined the Rod_Mather variable there (apparently it can accept spaces?!?), and checked that the Victoria pages still work :) I'll go through and update the individual pointers to use the variable shortly.

Updating links to your website

Hello (Rod Mather?) Thank you so much for taking the time to update the links on CPDL to your new website. Just to let you know, a new template has been set up to make it easier to update links in the future should they change. This is Template:Website. So, instead of typing

[http://www.cantatedomino.org/cd/index.shtml?15.txt {{net}}]

(or whatever) for the link from the CPDL score page, please type

[{{website|Mather}} {{net}}]

Then, if the URL ever needs to be changed in the future, all that it takes is a quick change to the template, not changing every score page that has a link. Also, there's no need to duplicate the link to your website on every score page under "External websites:" I hope this is ok. Regards --Bobnotts talk 09:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

FORGIVE ME if I am typing in the wrong place, I have to really get used to wiki stuff.
As this is a discussion :-
while I understand the ease for using
[{{website|Mather}} {{net}}] I was attempting to be user friendly for people browsing IE 1st CPDL is searched > they find a file they like the look of, but its a link (say) to my site > They land on my site and have to search again.
So I was eliminating the second search by making a direct link to open the page for the specified file. I cannot put direct links to the file, because that is the way the site is set up. I have also set up my system, that should I change the category (etc) of the work (file)THE LINK WILL ALWAYS REMAIN THE SAME. As much as I understand the easy method that you suggest, I would prefer the link to the actual page kept to be friendly for users. I intend to keep cantatedomino for years, and I don't envisage moving anything once it is there. Unless users RULE that I must use that format, may I be allowed to continue with direct linking to the actual page?
Not everything that was in the rodeby.noteperfect site will be transferred, I need to obtain permission from some of the contributors. The old site will remain for a few more months. The new sites suffered hacking and was destroyed several times when using Joomla, and a few weeks ago I had to start all over again without Joomla.
With reference to the External link section, I noticed that someone had already done it for some of the pages with my work, (and I am sure it wasn't me who did it). I was merely trying to standardise. I won't add it there any more.
Thank you
--Noteperfect 09:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Rob, I agree with Rod that, in this case, the direct link to the page is preferable. We should avoid using template Website in his editions, or perhaps change his entry in the template to only bring the fixed part of the URL (http://www.cantatedomino.org), and completing the link outside (http://www.cantatedomino.org/cd/index.shtml/cd/index.shtml?131.txt/cd/index.shtml?15.txt), though I'm not sure this second alternative is worth the change, since a move to other domain would likely break this logic too. Regards —Carlos Email.gif 12:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Permit me to wade in here. When I created Template:website, it was my intent that, for "moveable" sites where the directory/file structure is preserved and it is desired to link deeper, the template entry would only contain the fixed part of the URL, as Carlos suggests. The main issues are portability, ease of transition should the URL change, and the shortening of the link code on our pages (such as has been achieved with Victoria). -- Chucktalk Giffen 12:37, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
Something odd is happening. Following this discussion, I have started to use [{{website|Mather}} {{net}}] and completing the link outside as suggested, and WHILE (yes while) I am updating it seems that someone has changed the template from "http://www.cantatedomino.org" to "http://www.cantatedomino.org/cd/index.shtml" which is absurd. THAT LINK leads nowhere, FOR EXAMPLE the link to my site on "http://choralwiki.net/wiki/index.php/How_sweet_the_name_of_Jesus_sounds_(Rod_Mather)" leads nowhere. and such like upsets any of the links on this site(CPDL) that are just "[{{website|Mather}} {{net}}]". An shtml site is essentially an elementary database web site. and requires input after the .shtml?xxxxx to allow a page to be displayed. I have taken care of how people find the actual home page, from "http://www.cantatedomino.org/" and for the template to be more than this is of no help to me either me as an editor, or others as users. I had allocated this Sunday to get all my links right, and it seems that I have just wasted the last few hours, and I have limited time for this sort of thing. I can either use [{{website|Mather}} {{net}}] or I can completely use the system I was originally using, but a template that includes "/cd/index.shtml" after the domain is not helpful and from this site sometimes leads nowhere as shown above. Please Please revert the template to the root URL "http://www.cantatedomino.org/" only. (Hopefully today) so that I can continue. THE ONLY CONCERN THAT THIS SIGHT SHOULD HAVE IS THE DOMAIN, anything after that is my concern. Thank you for reading.
I took the longer version, with the stuff after the .org, by following the "this site is moving" link on your site and copying the URL it landed me on. As requested, I've changed the Mather template to point to http://www.cantatedomino.org only.