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Reply to your question about Esperanto word division

See User_talk:Esperanto41. Esperanto41 20:34, 8 January 2013


Carlos, a rather belated thank you for pointing out {{Top}}, {{Middle}} and {{Bottom}}. Infinitely easier than the code, which I could never remember! I've taken on inserting it whenever I come upon a table in the old format, since I'm sure others will find it as useful as I do when they spot it. Jamesgibb (talk) 16:13, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Your're welcome! That reminded me that I need to add some documentation to these templates, will do it now :) Regards, —Carlos (talk) 16:43, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Translate extension

Hello, I see that this is a multilingual wiki. Have you considered using the Translate extension, which allows to easily make your MediaWiki multilingual? It makes you save enormous amounts of time which otherwise is wasted on templates wizardry, manual synchronisation of pages and so on, scarying off most translators; and offers many other aid to efficient translation. Now it's also available in handy tarball bundles. The page explains how to get help and more information, and there is extensive documentation; asking on #mediawiki-i18n @ freenode is probably your best chance for immediate assistance if needed. Thanks, Nemo 23:48, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Holy Mary Mother of God

Hi Carlos I have submitted a new short composition Holy Mary Mother of God for SAB choir keyboard and flute

Just wondering when it is going to be posted on CPDL

thanks so much

Daniele Colla 20:13, 19 January 2013

Done! —Carlos (talk) 14:58, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

New Swedish composer

Helo Carlos

You have helped me before. I want to add scores of a Swedish composer that is not in the composers list. His name is Knut Håkanson.

Per-Anders Aglert 10:03, 27 January 2013

Done! —Carlos (talk) 14:58, 27 January 2013 (UTC)


Hi, Carlos. Thanks for the welcome. I've used CPDL quite a bit over the last few years and want to contribute back to it as I am able. Thanks, too, for clarifying my posting of a literal translation. (I'm still learning wiki conventions.) --Wsponzani 21:43, 27 January 2013‎

Thanks and update to Batten work

Carlos -- thanks for your note welcoming me back to Choral Wiki! It prompted me to look and see what was the first thing I uploaded. Then I noticed my correction for Batten's "Haste Thee, O God" was in a hard-to-use format. These days I can easily make a PDF, so I did that and uploaded it. That also spells the composer's name correctly! I think I entered the information properly to create a new edition and I separately uploaded the PDF under the same name. But you or another editor will probably need to review and make sure everything is correct. Cheers, chris (talk) 13:46, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Thou Knowest, Lord, the Secrets of Our Hearts, Z.58b

Hello Carlos, yes, you are right: I (christoph Lahme) am the Editor. Z.58b is not the 'opus-number' for all of those settings of "Thou knowest", but only for that revised first setting I contributed. Moreover it's part of the Funeral Sentences (1672, 1677), but not composed for the funeral of Queen Mary. Thanks.--Christophero Manco (talk) 22:28, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Jean Gilles Requiem

Hello Carlos,

Thanks for your welcome, as you know i am new as cpdl user, and slowly learning howto etc.

The Jean Gilles Requiem is found on a french website, but it was very hard to trace and i can't find the original location anymore. Also googling ( by three separate persons ) did not give results.

The cpdl is much used by me as i am making rehearsal files for several choires i participate. Now I am unemployed and have some sparetime to upload a number of midi files I created the last years.

I will try to update my personal page, it seems that my previous attempt was not OK.

with regards, Roel 09:54, 11 March 2013‎

Callcott's "A Beauteous ..."


Rather belatedly I have uploaded an earlier version of this work with the original, lewd, lyrics. Would you be kind enough to change the title to "A beauteous fair has pierced my heart". Many thanks Jgoodliffe (talk) 00:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Done. Nice to have the two editions for comparison, thanks! —Carlos (talk) 02:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)


C’est avec plaisir. Cordialement --Archimatth (talk) 13:03, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Musica Colonial page


You will see that I have jazzed up this page, adding a bit of 17th century glamour. I have also uploaded images of Morales and Juana Ines de la Cruz (they are both public domain). Feel free to do any tidying up you think is appropriate (e.g. dividing the list of composers into columns - I could not work out how to do this).

Jonathan Jgoodliffe (talk) 11:17, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jonathan, the page looks very nice now! I've made the composers list into columns as you suggested. —Carlos (talk) 15:02, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

help, please

Dear Carlos, I have just founded a new page for Uherek Milan, but I did something wrong, because first name is Milan and I cannot repair it now. Could you please help me? Thanks, Jan Pallas 16:37, 6 April 2013‎

Hi Jan, his name was corrected. Regards, —Carlos (talk) 23:42, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, that was fast!!! Thank you very much, I will be more cautious next time. Jan 01:56, 7 April 2013‎

Hi, Carlos, I'll try. There are folksongs most in Moravia and Slovakia, which cannot be arranged too much modern. And Mr. Uherek was from Moravia and he felt how they should be sung and therefore he made them in somewhat simple harmony, but what is most important for these songs is agogics. And that cannot be heard from computer-made MIDI. Maybe some of Moravian or Slovak songs could be found on youtube. I am not much good in English, hope you understand me. Best regards, Jan 15:32, 7 April 2013‎

Qual dolcezza giamai

Hi Carlos Thank you for your welcoming message. It is a pleasure to contribute to this excellent website. I am working on further scores by Willaert. Best wishes, Hans 04:05, 14 April 2013‎

Duron's "O vos omnes"

Carlos would you please add this to the "O vos omnes" page. I cannot work out how to do this. Thanks. Jgoodliffe (talk) 09:46, 20 April 2013 (UTC) Carlos. You can ignore this: I wokred out how to do it. Jgoodliffe (talk) 12:03, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

New editor on Musica Colonial site


You will see that Juan Pablo Pira Martinez from Guatemala asked me to upload a new work for him. There is also a new account in his name. Jonathang (talk) 22:43, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jonathan, thank you for taking care of this; good to know that there is a new volunteer for the Musica Colonial project. —Carlos (talk) 14:16, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect composer attribution

Hello! I commented in the talk page of a misattributed work several months ago on fixing the issue, but it seems to have been lost in the crowd. Would you mind taking a look at it? Link here. Thanks! Wboyle (talk) 05:44, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Walker, thanks for pointing me to that page. The misattribution is confirmed by the Grove Dictionary. I've made the necessary changes. —Carlos (talk) 14:19, 23 April 2013 (UTC)


Sorry about that, Carlos. I have been assuming (wrongly) that the only page likely to link was the composer page, where I've been bypassing the redirect page fairly consistently, I think. In future, I'll do a proper check on "What links here" (which I had failed to spot!) and make any other changes necessary. I'm really just doing it for tidyness, but if you think that there are potential risks involved that I'm unaware of, let me know.

By the way, I think the solution you came up with for Pange lingua/Tantum ergo was elegant and should satisfy everyone. (Perhaps that's a forlorn hope!) Jamesgibb (talk) 18:08, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Vivo ego dicit Dominus (Ludwig Senfl)

Carlos, there appear to be two separate editions of this, one with Vivi for Vivo, but both with the same number. I've tried tidying it, but seem to be making a mess of it, since what I expected to happen when I moved a page, didn't happen! Much safer therefore for me to leave it to the experts. (I've inadvertently created a page called Vivi ego dicit Dominus temp (Ludwig Senfl) but haven't deleted it, lest I make matters worse!

Thanks very much for completing the English translation of Veni sponsa Christi, by the way. I got interrupted halfway through and, by the time I got back to it, you had already done it. Jamesgibb (talk) 11:30, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi James, thanks for catching this; the "Vivi" page was indeed a duplicate of the other one, so I deleted it. Usually I keep the older page, but these two were posted only two days apart, and the one with the correct title was also more complete, so it was kept. If you tried to rename Vivi ego dicit Dominus to Vivo ego dicit Dominus, you probably saw a warning message informing that the page with the new title already existed, and asking if it should be deleted first. This is usually done only when we wish to merge both page histories, otherwise it's better not to continue :) Regards, —Carlos (talk) 16:11, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

O magnum mysterium - Pedro de Cristo

Brian Marble has contacted me about his recently uploaded edition, where the file links don't work. I've checked whether the files have actually been uploaded, and they have and the names on the Works page look correct. I suspect that he had made an error while creating the edition page and hasn't copied across the file locations correctly.

It's probably simple to correct, but I can't see a way to do it without creating a new edition page, which is obviously to be avoided. Any suggestions as to how to repair the links, Carlos? Jamesgibb (talk) 06:21, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

It was just a typo: he wrote Christo for Cristo. The links are working now. Regards, —Carlos (talk) 06:50, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Well spotted, Carlos. I'll let him know. Jamesgibb (talk) 10:35, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Fixing a problem with a PDF

Hi, I just noticed I made a mistake in a score I uploaded.

How do I go about removing it and uploading a fixed version (and if possible without having it display that 'withdrawn at the request of the editor' message)?

Thanks, Cathal 14:58, 29 May 2013


1. Sorry about {{Text}}. I'll make sure to handle it correctly in future. But what does it do, since I've not seen it before?
2. Alessandro Scarlatti - much improved. Wish I'd thought of it myself!
3. I've been careful to check what links here before deleting any redundant pages. However, I've noticed that some links remain (e.g. Editions 205xx) even though, when I check them, the updated file(page) name is displayed, rather than that of the one I am considering deleting. (I don't delete in those circumstances. Is it because the pages concerned don't take account of redirects automatically?
Jamesgibb (talk) 09:34, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

  1. No problem! Besides adding a header to the text (with a banner when available) the Text template is useful to inform us that that page actually contains text in that language. Pages with {{Text|English}} will be categorized in English texts, and so on. There is a maintenance page ChoralWiki:Score pages without Text templates that lists works lacking one of the appropriate Text templates.
  2. Thanks; that layout may be kept for a while, until one of the columns becomes too large.
  3. You're right: most of the ChoralWiki:xxxx pages that continue linking to moved pages are in fact dynamic pages that have not updated themselves yet; it takes a couple of hours sometimes. You don't need to worry with these links and may delete the redirect.

Carlos (talk) 15:03, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Merging accounts

Hi Carlos,

Havent been on here in a while but saw a message from you about two accts, JosephStephens and Stephensmusic. Do what ever you need to do to simplify things and merge them into one. Just let me know what you decide to do. You may have already done this. thanks JGS 18:07, 9 June 2013

Rationalising the text pages

Carlos, I've now put some thoughts up on the the administrators' forum and let other administrators know via their emails or discussion pages. (I'm probably telling you something you've already noticed!) Jamesgibb (talk) 11:21, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Going to participate soon. Regards, —Carlos (talk) 03:36, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Ars subtilior editions

Carlos, there are three works uploaded under this title which appear to be on an external site. However, none of the works pages have works numbers or links to the external site. I can't see a way to correct this, but you may be able to. (I don't think it's that urgent.) Jamesgibb (talk) 18:04, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi James, thanks for reminding me of this. I had already bookmarked this user but forgot to write him regarding these issues. He forgot to fill in the form:Add work for each of his submissions. Best, —Carlos (talk) 04:00, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

La la maître Pierre

Hi Carlos, I've added a "misattributed" to Susato's Maistre Pierre. Is it possible you mistook the mention "Susato" as meaning the composer, while Sabine just intended it as a mention of the editor? I've got the facsimile of the 11th book here, and it clearly states Jacob Clemens non Papa as a composer. If so, could you merge both pages? Cordially, Jkelecom (talk) 10:39, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Joachim, it was Bobnotts who renamed that page, probably misled by the editor information added by Sabine in her edition (as you correctly noted). The attribution was corrected and the works merged in the original page. Please note that the title with the original spelling "Piere" is widely unknown, returning only a handful of results in Google [1]; that's why the modern spelling was chosen instead. Regards, —Carlos (talk) 13:09, 18 July 2013 (UTC)


Thanks Carlos. I don't mind. Wverkaik (talk) 09:47, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Correcting CPDL #30003 and/or #30004

Carlos, I write to ask for assistance on my CPDL page to correct

  1. 30003 'All That I Ask' (string accompaniment).

I recall having hit the send twice on this item and created (I believe)

  1. 30003 & 30004--each of which is basically the same.

The upshot is this--the link to the pdf of the score is dead or broken. How may I resolve this?

Thank you for your assistance again.

Crys Armbrust (talk) 01:10, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

I've corrected the file name this way :




Carlos, could you see if that kind of conversion can be included in the AddWork form?
Thanks in advance. Claude (talk) 07:09, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Claude, thanks for taking care of this already. I'll see with Max if this conversion can be rendered automatic.
On a related subject, I'm afraid that Vittorio Giannini's work may be still under copyright. Mr. Armbrust, could you please check this?
Regards, —Carlos (talk) 10:53, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Removal request

Hi Carlos, a few month ago you asked me if I want to delete my entire compositions. I answered your questions on the side you wrote to me. Please delete all my composition, the pdf and other files. Could you please inform me when it's done (alexander.schmitt.3(at) Thanks a lot, greetings. AlexanderSchmitt 05:22, 10 September 2013

Done. —Carlos (talk) 14:07, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Ferdinand di Lasso (II)

Carlos, not urgent, but I've noticed that this composer is being sorted on ( in the composer list, rather than L. It's beyond my competence to correct it, so when you have a moment, perhaps you could have a look. Jamesgibb (talk) 14:05, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi James. At the bottom of the page, I've set the DEFAULTSORT as follows:
{{DEFAULTSORT:Lasso, Ferdinand di (II)}}
See Template:NameSorter. – Chucktalk Giffen 00:15, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Chuck, thank you for taking care of it for me! —Carlos (talk) 03:46, 19 September 2013 (UTC)