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Can we add an attestation to the form that the score does not violate the copyright or other rights of any third parties?
Can we add an attestation to the form that the score does not violate the copyright or other rights of any third parties?
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Good idea!  I suppose the question is whether we should ask for a statement that the submitter ''does not knowingly violate the copyright or other rights of any third parties.
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I would not include the word knowingly, since that changes in a potentially meaningful way the wording our attorney suggested. Let's keep it consistent with the wording on the Upload File page. If you feel strongly that users would be inhibited if the word knowingly wasn't there, let me know and I'll ask our attorney.
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I just feel that, without ''knowingly'' added, this is putting a "lawyerly" onus on contributors that they might not feel comfortable with, thereby discouraging them from making any contributions that require them to research and to seek legal advice.  On the other hand, if our legal counsel strongly advises against including the extra word, then I'm okay with it.
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== Yes/No reversed in "Add Choral Work" #3? ==
Hi, everyone!  I am thinking about revising an existing CPDL score to fix errors and improve formatting. When I follow the very nice intructions under [[#Add Choral Work]], I suspect the "yes" and "no" lines are matched to the opposite links. Also, the text makes it sound like it points to two forms, but both options point to the same form ''Add Work/Edition''. The text now reads:
:3. Is the choral work by this composer already listed on CPDL?
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:* Yes - Go to the page for adding 'new editions'. Here's a link: Add New Choral Work to Composer Page http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/form/work.htm
:* No - Go to page for creating entry for a new edition to an existing Choral Works page. Here's a link: Add Choral Work to an Edition Page http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/form/work.htm
I think this should read:
:3. Is the choral work by this composer already listed on CPDL?
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:* No - First fill out the form for adding a new 'Work/Edition'. Here's a link: Add New Choral Work to Composer Page http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/form/work.htm . Then follow steps 1, 2, 3a, and 4a of [[Help:Score submission guide#Adding the wiki code for a new edition (optional but recommended)]].
:* Yes - First fill out the form for adding a new 'Work/Edition'. Here's a link: Add New Choral Work to Composer Page http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/form/work.htm . Then follow steps 1, 2, 3'''b''', and 4'''b''' of [[Help:Score submission guide#Adding the wiki code for a new edition (optional but recommended)]].
I'm new here, so I want to double-check that I'm understanding correctly before I make the change.  Thank you! [[User:JimDeLaHunt|JimDeLaHunt]] 00:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
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You're quite right. I've made the modification (help pages are locked so only people with admin rights can edit them). Thanks for catching that, Jim!
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== Oy! ==
I though I might have the hang of things by now, but: I click "Add scores to CPDL", get this page and can't find the form. But wait, the help page is a redirect from Choralwiki:Add music…no, but this talk page mentions <nowiki>http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/form/work.htm</nowiki>. There is an error message that the URL needs to be added, though the form says filename '''or''' url. Same error message with full url; I'm giving up, in disgust, but linking files to [[Benedictus sit Deus KV117 (Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart)]] and leaving a cleanup note. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]] ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 07:09, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
:Aha, [[Form:Add work]] is what I wanted. [[User:Richard Mix|Richard Mix]]  Does Help:Add Music have a raison d'être of its own that should keep us from making it a redirect to [[Help:Score submission guide]]??? ([[User talk:Richard Mix|talk]]) 10:23, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

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add copyright attestation to score submission guide?

  • Posted by: Vaarky 06:03, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
 Help 

Can we add an attestation to the form that the score does not violate the copyright or other rights of any third parties?

Reply by: Chucktalk Giffen 13:26, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

 Help 

Good idea! I suppose the question is whether we should ask for a statement that the submitter does not knowingly violate the copyright or other rights of any third parties.

Reply by: Vaarky 05:50, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

 Help 

I would not include the word knowingly, since that changes in a potentially meaningful way the wording our attorney suggested. Let's keep it consistent with the wording on the Upload File page. If you feel strongly that users would be inhibited if the word knowingly wasn't there, let me know and I'll ask our attorney.

Reply by: Chucktalk Giffen 13:50, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

 Help 

I just feel that, without knowingly added, this is putting a "lawyerly" onus on contributors that they might not feel comfortable with, thereby discouraging them from making any contributions that require them to research and to seek legal advice. On the other hand, if our legal counsel strongly advises against including the extra word, then I'm okay with it.

Yes/No reversed in "Add Choral Work" #3?

Hi, everyone! I am thinking about revising an existing CPDL score to fix errors and improve formatting. When I follow the very nice intructions under #Add Choral Work, I suspect the "yes" and "no" lines are matched to the opposite links. Also, the text makes it sound like it points to two forms, but both options point to the same form Add Work/Edition. The text now reads:

3. Is the choral work by this composer already listed on CPDL?

I think this should read:

3. Is the choral work by this composer already listed on CPDL?

I'm new here, so I want to double-check that I'm understanding correctly before I make the change. Thank you! JimDeLaHunt 00:01, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Reply by: Vaarky 03:41, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

 Help 

You're quite right. I've made the modification (help pages are locked so only people with admin rights can edit them). Thanks for catching that, Jim!

Oy!

I though I might have the hang of things by now, but: I click "Add scores to CPDL", get this page and can't find the form. But wait, the help page is a redirect from Choralwiki:Add music…no, but this talk page mentions http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/form/work.htm. There is an error message that the URL needs to be added, though the form says filename or url. Same error message with full url; I'm giving up, in disgust, but linking files to Benedictus sit Deus KV117 (Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart) and leaving a cleanup note. Richard Mix (talk) 07:09, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Aha, Form:Add work is what I wanted. Richard Mix Does Help:Add Music have a raison d'être of its own that should keep us from making it a redirect to Help:Score submission guide??? (talk) 10:23, 27 May 2015 (UTC)