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Illibata Dei Virgo nutrix

See Talk:Illibata Dei Virgo nutrix (Josquin des Prez) for my reply to your message left on the edition page for Illibata... (your message was moved to the Talk page). By the way, I was very pleased to see your edition of Illibata... posted, and I took the liberty of supplying rather copious comments when I added the extra information necessary to clean up the page yesterday. ChuckGiffen 08:16, 6 December 2006 (PST)

Missa Nasce la gioja mia

I uploaded Palestrina's Missa Nasce la gioja mia, which is amongst the requested scores, in the pending category. I tried to edit that page, but I couldn't. Could an administrator please move this mass from the pending category to the completed? Thanks

Pothárn Imre 14 February 2007, 16.22 GMT

Hi Pothárn, a link to your edition was added to the Request page above, thanks for that edition! —Carlos Email.gif 20:07, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Gustate et videte

Hi Pothárn, you've added a link to the file Lassus Gustate et on your edition of Lassus' Gustate et videte, but you seem to have forgotten to upload the file. Should I remove the link from that page? By the way, thanks for this new edition! Regards, —Carlos (talk) 03:26, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Carlos, thank you for pointing this out. I uploaded the Lilypond file. Imruska (talk)

Great, thank you! —Carlos Email.gif 03:45, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

In die tribulationis - Jacquet de Mantua

Thanks for your note. I seem to have inadvertently deleted one line from the Latin text (or failed to notice that it had been omitted by the editor). The only difference I can find between the two editions is that the Jacquet text includes Et exercitabar et scopebam spiritum meum, so that needs to be corrected. (Lachrymis is also spelt differently, but that strikes me as trivial). I suggest you leave it to me to make the changes and then, if you are not happy with the way I have indicated the differences, we can decide jointly how best to resolve matters. It won't be until tomorrow at the earliest that I can tackle this, since I've got a choir rehearsal this evening.

Incidentally, I noticed one minor typo when looking through your edition; Bar 30 Soprano has at for et.
Jamesgibb (talk) 18:34, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello. Thanks for pointing out the typo, I fixed it and uploaded fixed version. Imruska (talk) 20:55, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Right, I've tidied up my rather sloppy work on the text page. As far as I can see, the only difference is that the Jacquet version includes the 2nd half of Ps.76:7, so I've made this clear. I think the good reason for having a text page is that it gathers together all the information about the text, such as source and translations, rather than individual editors having to add this to each works page. However, if you feel strongly that you would prefer to have the text back on your works page, I don't have an issue with that. I think it would still be sensible to have a link to the text page as well, though, just in case anyone is interested in other settings of the words.

Let me what you think, Potharn.
Jamesgibb (talk) 16:45, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

I agree that pieces which have the same text, should have a common page. But the In die tribulationis page is in my opinion far from perfect. I'd prefer - and not just here - to have the verse numbers omitted, all the more so, that this particular text is a compilation of non adjacent verses. I would remove the square parentheses around prae lachrymis as well. And the Matthew text (if it really is taken from that Matthew passage) is incorrect, it should be: Haec omnia initia fuerunt dolorum meorum.

Have just noticed your comment, since, although I was "watching" your discussion page, I didn't appear to get a message that you had added a comment. Will think about the points you make and get back to you.
Jamesgibb (talk) 11:49, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Omnia quae fecisti (Orlando di Lasso)

Have notice a minor typo in your version of this. I think misericordiam tuam should be misericordiae tuae - genitive, not accusative. However, the error may well be in the source.
Jamesgibb (talk) 11:43, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi James, maybe you got confused because the most common variant reads "secundum multitudinem misericordiae tuae". But here, as we don't have the word multitudinem, the correct case is indeed the accusative. Regards, —Carlos Email.gif 14:36, 5 February 2015 (UTC)


You may have noticed that we've been making significant changes to composer pages recently. The aim is to automate, as much as possible, the process of adding works to the site. One side effect has been that a number of works that had inadvertently not been added to the composer page have been identified and the omission corrected. (My record for a single composer is 21, including one of my own uploads, embarrassingly!) We have also removed the file links from the composer page since we have found that, when people uploaded revised versions of files, they often forgot to update the links on the composer page at the same time, so we had a mismatch.

The changes work well on the simpler composer pages, but there are still some issues to solve on the more complicated pages, where works are listed by opus number, rather than alphabetically, for example. I would be very interested to have any feedback you may have, whether positive or negative.Jamesgibb (talk) 07:44, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Lauda anima mea (Lasso)

I think you are misunderstanding the point I am making. My edition originated from Brian Marble's, and the transposition of a minor 3rd up and halving of note values refers specifically to that source. I'm perfectly happy to add that it is a tone up from the original publication of Lassus (although I haven't seen that - it was a conclusion drawn from looking at both the editions that were already there). However, if you just say a tone up from the original, it is unclear whether what is meant is from Lassus, or from the Marble edition.

Incidentally, I've changed your use of 'note' to 'tone' in a couple of places. For example, note could mean E-F (a semitone) or F-G (a tone). Jamesgibb (talk) 14:20, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Published template on Orlando di Lasso pages

Hello, I notice that you have been moving commas back inside the brackets of the Published template, after I had moved them outside the brackets. That's fine with me, it does make the work page look a little better. I probably didn't offer a good enough explanation of why I did this: everything in the first parameter of {{Published}} shows up on the page Works of Orlando di Lasso sorted by language and genre, a page that some people find useful. Which would you rather have? A space between the year and the comma on the work page, or the comma appearing on the list page just cited?
Also, would you please look at this page? At the top, there are a number of works that the contributor/editor did not assign to a publication (25 of them, at this time). Perhaps you have the time to help assign some of these to publications; I'd rather not, it's way out of my field of knowledge or expertise. If you don't have the time or desire, that's fine, no one has noticed so far. – Barry Johnston (talk) 03:43, 16 April 2018 (UTC)


Dear Imre (if it's correct so to call you),

I'd very much appreciate an expert opinion at Talk:Alma_Nemes_(Orlando_di_Lasso)! Richard Mix (talk) 03:55, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Ruffo masses

Deaar Imre, thanks for your note. I think it has been corrected already. Regards, Will.

Thank you!

Thanks for the swift reply to my correction for 'Christe redemptor omnium ... ex Patre'. Very much appreciate it! —pauljrossmann (talk) 23:55, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Magnum Opus Musicum (Orlando di Lasso)

Hello, Good work, correlating this with earlier publications! I made a search on Lasso compositions first published in 1604. These need to be added to the manual list:

Quid vulgo memorant (Orlando di Lasso)
Tota pulchra es (Orlando di Lasso)

These pages need to be edited to include 1604 in the Pub template:

In addition, these don't have a date:

I hope this helps you. Also, I simplified the manual list on the Magnum Opus Musicum page, to try to make edits easier. If you don't like it, I can easily revert. — Barry Johnston (talk) 19:50, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

I don't like the manual list. It was in alphabetical order, now it is according to the publication number in MOM. But we have the list of the motets by publication number below. So I'd rather have it in alphabetical order, so please revert it. :) (Then I will add the two more pieces missing.) All the 5 pages you listed do have the 1604 in the Pub template.
Benedictus. This seems to be part of a mass. Miserere mei a9, Missa Je suis déshéritée, Missa Osculetur me were not published, they were preserved in manuscript choirbooks. Sicut ablactatus est is the second part of the motet Domine non est exaltatum. Imruska (talk)
I reverted to the table, as it was earlier. You're right about the 5 - my mistake. Thanks for catching that. You know a lot more about where the last ones might come from, I was just trying to help. — Barry Johnston (talk) 02:03, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Lamentationes Hieremiae Prophetae (quatuor vocum) (Orlando di Lasso)

Hi Imre,

We (and the public) enormously enjoyed your edition of the first nocturn last night! One emendation we made was changing the altus note of Lesson II m134 from la to mi. The extra measure in the Jerusalem (and differing accidentals) is because it's written out in the source each of 3 times, yes? We liked the b-natural on the tenor's 3rd note, and the cantus f-sharp at "Dominum". All the best from California, Richard Mix (talk) 20:16, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi Richard,

The altus note in Lesson II m134 is my mistake, the source has an A. I have fixed it. The Jerusalem part is written out three times, at the end of each lesson. Since Lesson I and III have the f-sharp in the source, I put a sharp as ficta to Lesson II. I did the Lamentations for Maundy Thursday 10 years ago, I don't remember what was my source, where I got the b-natural for the Tenor. (The lamentations for Good Friday and Holy Saturday I made from the facsimile of a choirbook in Munich recently.) Imruska (talk) 2023-04-07 0:35 (GMT +2)